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From: CABNstopthehate@aol.com
To: Tampa Bay Coalition:
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 3:25 PM
Subject: Dr. Laura Alert!

Amazon.com Defends
Dr. Laura Association
from "The List" * (6/28/01)

You may recall I told you last time about a burgeoning problem with
Amazon.com. Well, it's now gotten much worse.  Basically, the company seems
to be loathe to enforce its own terms of services as it applies to
non-discrimination against the glbt community. 

The issue, in a nutshell, is that about 6 weeks ago, someone noticed an ad
for Amazon on Dr. Laura's Web site. They wrote Amazon to complain, and got an
email back saying that Dr. Laura is an "affiliate" of Amazon (meaning, she
puts up their ads and gets paid for how many people buy Amazon stuff by
clicking through the ad). Amazon also provided a copy of its terms of service
for affiliates, and told folks that while it does ban affiliates whose Web
sites "promote discrimination based on" a variety of categories, including
specifically "sexual orientation," there was nothing on Dr. Laura's site
promoting discrimination against gays.

That's when an inventive young soul went to Laura's site and got a picture of
an Amazon banner on Dr. Laura call-to- action, asking visitors to her site to
contact Congress in favor of the Jesse Helms amendment, would help protect
the Boy Scouts' policy of discriminating against gay scouts and scout
leaders. When folks told Amazon that in fact Dr. Laura's Web site was
promoting discrimination in the Boy Scouts, Amazon wrote back and said, well,
it wasn't "illegal discrimination." The problem here is that nowhere in
Amazon's terms of service does it require "illegal" discrimination, only
"discrimination."

So, folks write back to Amazon again, and then were told that Amazon believes
in free speech, and that the best answer to bad speech, was more speech. But
that begged the question of why, if Amazon is such an advocate of free
speech, does it already have a terms of service policy banning "speech" on
Web sites that discriminate? And, why when that speech is directed at gays,
isn't Amazon willing to enforce their own written policy? And folks wrote
Amazon and asked them this.

So, what did Amazon do? They wrote back again, this time saying that they
don't scrutinize the social or political views of their affiliates - which is
simply absurd. Of course they do. The company specifically says you cannot be
an affiliate if your Web site promotes discrimination against a number of
specific minority groups. If you advocate discrimination against a minority
group, that is per se your social and political view of minorities. So, once
again, Amazon is begging the question of why it is now suddenly trying to
carve anti-gay exemptions to its written terms of service policy WHICH
EXPLICITLY FORBIDS ASSOCIATES WHO PROMOTE DISCRIMINATION.

If Amazon is suggesting that it will exempt anti-minority Web sites that
involve a "political" or "social" point of view, they'd be better careful,
because David Duke, Fred Phelps, the Klan, the militias, and lots of other
folks will be very glad to hear that Amazon.com is ok with affiliates that
promote discrimination, so long as they can show the discrimination is part
of their "political" agenda. Can't wait till GodHatesFags.com gets wind of
this.

You can read more about the Amazon controversy here, including seeing copies
of their correspondence:
http://forums.about.com/ab-uspolitics2/messages/?lgnf=y&msg=228.1

You can see Amazon's ad on Dr. Laura's site:
http://forums.about.com/ab-uspolitics2/messages/?lgnf=y&msg=264.1

And this is Amazon's contact information: mailto:info@amazon.com
mailto:associates@amazon.com

Send Amazon.com a message asking why do they support Dr Laura
and discrimination, when their own policy forbids it.
 
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