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At Seminary, Unease Over Gay
Priests
Andy Krzmarzick, left, and David Kucharski
dropped out of the Theological College at
Catholic University in Washington
Unspoken Issue Created Atmosphere of
Tension
By Hanna Rosin
THE WASHINGTON
POST
July 21 — Several things struck Andrew Krzmarzick during orientation week
for his class of aspiring priests in the late summer of 1997: how brainy
everyone seemed, how they weren’t ostentatiously pious, and one other thing.
Midway through a tour of the library at Theological College in Northeast
Washington, he noticed another student “definitely checking me out.” So he
ditched the tour and asked the one friend he’d made so far: “Hey — are we the
only straight guys here or what?”
FOR DAVID Kucharski, that same realization came as
a pleasant surprise. Walking back from a movie after his first week of classes,
he asked some fellow students how they thought gay people were treated in their
parishes. At least a couple seemed sympathetic. “I knew I would need a friend
for later,” he said.
They were two young seminarians from the
diocese of Dubuque, Iowa — one straight and one gay. They arrived in Washington
one year apart, and both would have been Roman Catholic priests by now, classes
of 2001 and 2002, respectively, at the elite national seminary affiliated with
Catholic University. But both left when what they noticed those early weeks came
to dominate their seminary experience in a way they found unnerving — something
“known by everyone but never really acknowledged,” said Kucharski.
It was not the presence of gay men that bothered
either of them — both wound up working at the Whitman-Walker Clinic, doing
outreach to people with AIDS, many of them gay. It was the skittishness
surrounding the whole issue of homosexuality at the seminary. Gay or not seemed
to define social cliques, political camps and many a classmate’s wrenching
personal struggles. Yet being gay was never mentioned by the faculty except as
an abstract possibility.
“It’s not like guys were walking around holding
hands,” Krzmarzick said, “but there was just this huge undercurrent that was not
addressed.”
In some ways that silence is hardly surprising.
Until now, the church’s position on ordaining gay priests has remained
ambiguous. Pope John Paul II’s spokesman, Joaquin Navarro-Valls, recently said
of gays: “People with these inclinations just cannot be ordained.” But it was an
offhand response to a question, and generated much controversy because in fact
church policy does not forbid ordaining gay men.
For some conservative Catholics, however, the
priest sex abuse scandal has made the issue unavoidable. Much of their anger is
directed at the seminaries, gatekeepers of the priesthood. In “Goodbye, Good
Men: How Liberals Brought Corruption Into the Catholic Church,” published this
year, Michael S. Rose described the schools as havens for “homosexual
dilettantes” who alienate heterosexual candidates, ridicule the orthodox ones
and make a mockery of the church’s moral teachings.
‘It’s not like guys were
walking around holding hands,” Krzmarzick said, “but there was just this huge
undercurrent that was not addressed.’
— ANDREW
KRZMARZICK
Former
seminarian
Catholic liberals attribute the sex abuse scandal
to the requirement of celibacy or the absence of female priests. To them, the
focus on gay priests is just a witch hunt, and many would prefer not to open the
subject at all.
Somewhere between them is Donald B. Cozzens, a
former seminary rector. In “The Changing Face of the Priesthood,” Cozzens wrote
that the presence of a “gay subculture” is self-evident, as are the costs of
ignoring it. The answer is simply to open up the debate, he wrote: Is the
priesthood “becoming a gay profession. . . . Does it matter?”
The last time the Vatican dealt with the issue was
in the 1980s, when it sent a committee of bishops to investigate whether the 200
American seminaries were complying with the church’s moral teachings. At the
time, many of the schools had a reputation for being lax in enforcing their
traditional ban on sex. Next year, as part of its response to the sexual abuse
scandal, Rome plans to dispatch another Apostolic Visitation focusing on
questions of celibacy.
It is generally agreed that sexual activity at the
seminaries is less flagrant now, so this time the questions are more murky than
they were in the ’80s. The debate centers on the mere presence of a significant
number of gay students.
SEMINARY
INVESTIGATED
TC, as Theological College is known, was one of the
seminaries investigated in the ’80s, when the “gay subculture was a fairly
significant element” and the faculty was not strict, said the Rev. Bill Parent,
outgoing vocations director for the Archdiocese of Washington and a TC student
at the time.
Many of the two dozen present and former TC
students who were interviewed for this article described participating in, or
witnessing, some sexual activity, sometimes in the dorms and sometimes off
campus. But mostly what they described was the “weirdness,” as several called
it, meaning the gay undercurrent that Krzmarzick described — ubiquitous yet
unacknowledged.
The Rev. Lee Purcell, president of Krzmarzick’s
class in 1997 and now a priest in Indiana, said about 20 seminarians in a class
of 80 told him they were gay — some who “were almost flaunting it,” some who had
never admitted it to anyone else. He guessed about the same number were clearly
heterosexual and the rest were “struggling.”
No members of the TC administration would discuss
these numbers or the issue of gay students. But the Rev. Jon O’Brien, a priest
and psychiatrist who has counseled students at the school, described in general
what the seminary is looking for in its students. “The men we take are ‘regular
guys,’ ” he said. “The ultimate question I ask myself is, would he be able to
make a good marriage? The seminary is not for men who would not make good
husbands.”
WHY DO I FEEL SO
UNCOMFORTABLE?’
When Krzmarzick arrived at TC in August 1997, the
place looked a bit worn, at least from the inside, with its peeling paint and
cinder block walls. But he had no doubts about his
choice.
It was a national seminary, with the smartest men
from dioceses all over the country. The students lived and ate in the seminary
building but took classes across the road at Catholic University with lay
students, men and women. They were free to skip any meal and head to a
restaurant or a movie in downtown Washington, a short Metro ride
away.
At 22, he was one of the youngest in his class,
and, compared with the accomplishments of his fellow seminarians, his degree in
philosophy paled. The list of 80 in the house included educators, business
people, an astrophysicist.
Like most of the freshmen, Krzmarzick was “on fire
to serve the Lord,” a zeal confirmed by a personal moment of revelation: a
message from his earthly angel, a woman he met who had dreamed that the Virgin
Mary gave him a rose.
‘I went up to another
seminarian’s room where several candidates were gathered and I felt really
uncomfortable . . . as if there were inside jokes going on, conversations that
made no sense to me.’
— ENTRY IN ANDREW
KRZMARZICK'S DIARY
Krzmarzick’s previous experience of living in
dormitory life was his fraternity at Iowa State. It was a dry fraternity full of
guys like him, high achievers who 10 years down the road would be heading some
agribusiness, “wearing their Number One Dad apron, flipping burgers with one
hand and throwing a ball with the other.”
But at
TC he couldn’t quite find his place. “Why do I feel so uncomfortable in social
situations here at seminary?” he wrote in his diary at the time. “I went up to
another seminarian’s room where several candidates were gathered and I felt
really uncomfortable . . . as if there were inside jokes going on, conversations
that made no sense to me.”
Often he and a couple of buddies would skip out of
these gatherings and go play football, or head for Colonel Brooks’ Tavern, a
local bar, for some beers.
Krzmarzick had grown up in a Catholic family in a
few Midwest towns of under 1,000, but he was no rube. In college, he attended a
rally for a gay student who was beaten up, and even wrote a letter to the paper
calling it a “travesty.” Still, he was not prepared for what he found at
TC.
First, there was the stare at the library. Then
Krzmarzick walked into a seminarian’s room and saw him kissing another student.
No one mentioned it; Krzmarzick just asked his question and
left.
“It was starting to hit me: This was a place where
a lot of the guys are gay,” he recalled. “But I wasn’t sure what to make of it,
who to talk to. There was no public forum where we could talk openly about
it.”
In some ways, faculty members did address the
issue, even tried to confront students about addressing it honestly. In the
weekly Monday night talks about some thorny aspect of priesthood, faculty
members referred separately to issues faced by the gay students and the straight
students.
One seminarian recorded in his notes that the Rev.
Tom Hurst, now the TC rector, advised the students once to “stand in front of
the mirror and say, ‘Hello, my name is Bob and I’m straight, gay, bisexual,
confused but working on it,’ ” and talked about sexual orientation existing on a
continuum, with men falling on all points along the line.
Some nights after dinner, Krzmarzick
and a couple of friends would sit in their rooms and run through the list of men
in the house and label them: ‘Gay. Gay. Gay, but doesn’t know it. Gay, knows it,
but won’t admit it.’
But many students said they could not imagine
asking a follow-up question in these sessions, discussing being gay with the
group or mentioning their own personal struggles.
“We didn’t talk about it,” Krzmarzick said. “It was
talked about to us.”
The effect was to deepen the mystery, like
announcing someone was having an affair but not saying who. Some nights after
dinner, Krzmarzick and a couple of friends would sit in their rooms and run
through the list of men in the house and label them: “Gay. Gay. Gay, but doesn’t
know it. Gay, knows it, but won’t admit it.”
Anyone who was slightly strange or overly sociable
or even too conservative was gay. The “parafaculty,” or students who planned
alumni days, bishops’ visits, cocktail hours — gay. The DOTS, the guys on the
fourth floor named after a very rigid order, the Daughters of Trent, who wore
cassocks to class or did the 5 a.m. devotions in chapel — gay, but “praying to
the Virgin to take it away.”
No one was exempt. “At one point I started
wondering about myself,” Krzmarzick said.
Purcell, the class president, had sort of adopted
Krzmarzick, becoming his mentor, lending him his car, taking him on trips.
Toward the end of the first semester, Krzmarzick was feeling homesick and went
to him for comfort. They disagree on what happened next, beyond a hug, but
Krzmarzick left feeling uncomfortable.
Krzmarzick told his formation adviser about the
incident, but the advice he received made him uneasy. The adviser kept pressing
him on why he was so offended by the incident, kept pushing him in a direction
he did not want to go.
“I felt like if I would have said, ‘I’m gay, Father
— I’ve come to accept it,’ he would have said, ‘That’s great, congratulations,’
and left me alone,” Krzmarzick said.
At Christmas break, Krzmarzick told his parents
about the confusion. His father gave him this advice: “Make sure this is a
natural lake and not a man-made one.”
When Krzmarzick returned, he and Purcell clashed a
bit over planning an antiabortion rally, and for a while the tension just hung
there. A few nights before the event, Krzmarzick’s closest friend was walking
down the hall in search of a cigar and a TV to watch the debate over President
Bill Clinton’s impeachment. Suddenly he heard yelling. He dropped his jacket on
the ground and ran down the hall to see Purcell physically threatening
Krzmarzick.
That night, Krzmarzick slept on the floor in his
friend’s room because Purcell, trusted by faculty, had a master key to all the
rooms.
Purcell said he had been “sucked into a
co-dependent relationship. . . . In these very, very bizarre circumstances, you
frequently get these intimacy issues,” he said. But the experience taught him
“to create boundaries and limits” — a lesson crucial to becoming an effective
pastor.
For Krzmarzick, the incident began to taint his
view of the place. “If you could address this thing, openly gay men might
mature, develop normally,” he said. “But instead it gets dysfunctional.” He
began to view his classmates as “people who’d come there not out of some noble
calling, but who’d come there to hide.”
Krzmarzick said his friends dealt with the
strangeness in different ways.
“You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make
him drink,” said the Rev. John McDonough, an informal class leader who is now a
priest in Arizona. “Some people just don’t want to deal with
it.”
But another friend sounded increasingly bitter. “If
you’re hetero, it’s a different card you were played,” he would say. “But if you
come out, you’re golden, the whole system helps you.” Eventually, he dropped
out.
Krzmarzick made his decision that summer away from
his friends. He’d gone out to San Diego to take a clinical pastoral education
class, a kind of group therapy in which aspiring priests minister at a hospital
and then write “verbatims” hyper-analyzing what they felt during those
interactions. The leader was a Unitarian Universalist minister who was openly
gay.
To Krzmarzick, the minister seemed so much more
“healthy” than the “atmosphere of suffocating sexual repression” he had just
lived through in Washington.
“Here’s the problem,” he thought to himself. “You
need to create a space where people can be who they are. Being gay is not the
problem, but when it’s all underground it’s no good.”
One night while watching the sun set on the
cliffs overlooking the Pacific, he thought, “I wish I had a companion to share
this moment with me.” He thought: “I still love God with every fiber of my
being.” But the priesthood was something he just couldn’t do.
BOTH HOPEFUL AND ANXIOUS
In the summer of 1998, six weeks before he was headed to TC,
David Kucharski received an e-mail from Krzmarzick saying he wouldn’t be going
back. Kucharski was disappointed to hear it.
He had just gone through a difficult year. Once he
had almost asked a girlfriend to marry him, then changed his mind. So without
any lightning moment of revelation, he’d decided to enter the seminary. “It did
not seem likely I would ever have a very fulfilling relationship, so celibacy
just didn’t seem like a big deal, which I suspect is fairly common,” he
said.
First, Kucharski had to complete a two-year course
in pre-theology at a Catholic college in Dubuque. During his final semester, in
the spring of 1997, Kucharski picked up a copy of Time magazine with Ellen
DeGeneres (“Yep, I’m gay”) on the cover and “it was like, click, that’s me.” He
was 32.
Kucharski kept it to himself for a couple of weeks
and then decided to tell his vocations director, figuring that “for sure I’d get
kicked out.” But in fact the vocations director was fairly encouraging. So he
was a little bit hopeful about TC, but mostly anxious.
His diary from the orientation week reflects a lot
of worrying. “I wish I knew who to trust” is a phrase that recurs often. But
after a few months Kucharski relaxed and began to thrive. “The most striking
thing for me was the intense self-examination,” he recalled. “You really got to
know who you are, what your desires are. In that way, seminary was a complete
success for me.”
Seminary turned out to be a “great place to come
out,” he said. “There were other guys there in the same building going through
the same struggles, and faculty members who didn’t throw it up in your
face.”
He became comfortable saying the sentence “I am a
gay man” and used it selectively, with people he trusted. In seminary, each
candidate is assigned a spiritual director who acts as part mentor, part
confessor and part psychiatrist. His office is like a confession booth, a safe
place to discuss anything with no repercussions. He repeated the sentence to
each of his possible advisers to gauge their reactions.
One was “really mean,” he recalls, and cut him off.
Another appeared to stiffen and become silent. Another seemed completely
comfortable, so Kucharski chose him.
‘I realized I was not
willing to go through priestly life keeping something that important a secret.
Not that I expect to go up to every parishioner and say “Hi, I’m Father Dave and
I’m gay,” but I want to be in an environment where it’s considered okay to talk
about it.’
— DAVID
KUCHARSKI
Former seminarian
By March, he had found friends he could confide in.
It began with two guys who he talked to that day after the movies and who gave
responses he liked, then grew into a larger group. It’s not like it was a “gay
club or anything,” or even a network — “that sounds so conspiratorial,” he
said.
But these were men who liked to do the same things:
buy group tickets to the Shakespeare Theatre, see French films at the Dupont
Circle movie theater, drink wine out of real glasses, eat somewhere other than
Colonel Brooks’.
For a while he was taken with the bliss of finding,
for the first time in his life, somewhere he fit in. But by the end of the first
year he realized he was blooming in a very tight space. Sure, people were
supportive, but the subtext of their message was: Don’t talk about it out loud,
and never outside the walls of this building.
Yes, the rectors referred separately in the Monday
night talks to the gay and straight students. But it was impossible to imagine
raising your hand and saying, “As a gay student . . .” and proceeding with your
question.
Honesty was encouraged, but only to a point. On the
periodic psychological self-evaluations the students had to write, neither
Kucharski nor any of his friends would mention that they were gay. “No one ever
came out and said you can’t be a priest because you’re gay, but they made it
clear that you should be careful in case your bishop didn’t
approve.”
Once, in a moment of what he now realizes was
almost willful naivete, Kucharski asked a faculty member if he could start a
kind of gay support group. The school advised him against it.
“It was the classic case of the elephant in the
room,” he said. “Here was this big and very important issue that they would only
deal with in the most oblique ways.”
Later that year, he developed a crush on a lay
student in one of his classes but kept himself in a state of suspended
frustration. “There was never any improper activity,” he said. “I never would
have considered such a thing.”
Kucharski came back for a second year, but
reluctantly. At Christmas he went to a retreat and took some prayer books and a
copy of Andrew Sullivan’s “Love Undetectable,” about gay friendship, AIDS and
homophobia. There he made his decision.
“I realized I was not willing to go through
priestly life keeping something that important a secret,” he said. “Not that I
expect to go up to every parishioner and say “Hi, I’m Father Dave and I’m gay,’
but I want to be in an environment where it’s considered okay to talk about
it.”
As a parting act of low-grade defiance, he wrote a
semi-autobiographical paper on spiritual practices for gay men and read it out
loud to his class. After he left, Kucharski got an apartment near Dupont Circle
and a job at Whitman-Walker.
His closest friend is convinced Kucharski would
have made a good priest, but he has no regrets. Last month, when he went back to
visit his parents in Iowa and attended the ordination ceremony for the 2002
class of priests in his diocese, all he felt was relief that he was in the back,
clapping.
Occasionally, he says, he still asks God, ”
‘Why, why am I gay?’ And to this day I don’t have an answer. But I have the
unshakable feeling that God made me this way, and since then I’ve never felt
alone.”
THE
AFTERMATH
Krzmarzick and his
friends have formed an informal club of almost-were-priests. Every once in a
while they get together for beers and trade rumors: who stayed, who dropped out,
who was having affairs — and who is gay.
After a few beers the other night, Krzmarzick’s
friend, the bitter one, who also dropped out, conceded that some of the gay guys
are “the most pastoral guys.”
“They are the ones I would want on my deathbed by
my side saying, ‘God loves you,’ ” he said. “Even though I’m bitter they made me
leave, I know they’re the only ones who can do it.”
Krzmarzick, too, has sorted out his feelings about
homosexuality. Through a fraternity brother, he also got a job at
Whitman-Walker, and after a few months there became convinced that “it’s an
ontological part of a person. They don’t choose it.” Now he thinks his calling
is to be a sort of bridge between the gay and straight
communities.
One of his friends was married this summer, and
Krzmarzick, who now has a girlfriend, is sure it will happen to him, too. But
he’s also sure he’ll never feel quite satisfied, stuck in a state he names after
his favorite book, “The Holy Longing.”
“I know I am called to the very depths of my
being,” he said, “and I will be restless until I can call myself
‘priest.’”
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